The only question remaining for me is whether or not AMD will be competitive in the 15-20 watt TDP range where Intel's U series chips dominate. AMD has had trouble with efficiency, so depending how that turns out this generation I may still wait for Intel's 10nm chips for my Surface Pro refresh.
How do they "Dominate?" did you see the real life performance of those "15W" i7 whiskey lake? they get under 500pts in CB R15 (Check latest HP X360 review)in second run, you are paying high Premium for i7 Quad Core and getting less performance then cheap i5 8250u! Ultrabook having really hard time cooling those "15W" TDP CPU's. It's like if you were paying 1200$ for RTX 2080Ti but getting only RTX 2060 Performance after 10 sec gamplay. IMO it's just marketing gimmick like "95" 9900K lol.
>did you see the real life performance of those "15W" i7 whiskey lake? they get under 500pts in CB R15 (Check latest HP X360 review)in second run, you are paying high Premium for i7 Quad Core and getting less performance then cheap i5 8250u! Ultrabook having really hard time cooling those "15W" TDP CPU's. It's like if you were paying 1200$ for RTX 2080Ti but getting only RTX 2060 Performance after 10 sec gamplay.
You mean how like AMDs APUs manage to do better? Or how they have better battery life?
>IMO it's just marketing gimmick like "95" 9900K lol.
The biggest problem in my opinion is the lack of offering on AMD. I have been waiting for some offerings with the Ryzen 7 2800H (also, a 45W unit) and there isn't even a review yet, and the CPU was announced last November. It's almost time for the 3*** series and we don't have laptops with the 2800H yet.
I think them not going to hard in mobile / low power has been smart. Once they are on the 7nm node that is when they become super competitive with Intel and hopefully push hard into mobile / low power then as well.
Ignoring 80% of the market is not smart at all and 7nm will not change that - by that time Sunny Cove will be out and AMD will be back to drawing books. There is also some rumors that next Xbox will be Intel based ( likely Sunny Cove maybe with Xe graphics )
I think these 9 series are hold over to Sunny Cove later this year - mobile first because that is where the primary market it - like 2020 for desktop market - server could be earlier
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albert89 - Saturday, April 27, 2019 - link
Not just dominate desktop.Gtx>Rtx - Sunday, January 24, 2021 - link
my man knew what's upsorten - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
The only question remaining for me is whether or not AMD will be competitive in the 15-20 watt TDP range where Intel's U series chips dominate. AMD has had trouble with efficiency, so depending how that turns out this generation I may still wait for Intel's 10nm chips for my Surface Pro refresh.BigMamaInHouse - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
How do they "Dominate?" did you see the real life performance of those "15W" i7 whiskey lake? they get under 500pts in CB R15 (Check latest HP X360 review)in second run, you are paying high Premium for i7 Quad Core and getting less performance then cheap i5 8250u! Ultrabook having really hard time cooling those "15W" TDP CPU's. It's like if you were paying 1200$ for RTX 2080Ti but getting only RTX 2060 Performance after 10 sec gamplay.IMO it's just marketing gimmick like "95" 9900K lol.
Jorgp2 - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
>How do they "Dominate?"By actually selling them.
>did you see the real life performance of those "15W" i7 whiskey lake? they get under 500pts in CB R15 (Check latest HP X360 review)in second run, you are paying high Premium for i7 Quad Core and getting less performance then cheap i5 8250u! Ultrabook having really hard time cooling those "15W" TDP CPU's. It's like if you were paying 1200$ for RTX 2080Ti but getting only RTX 2060 Performance after 10 sec gamplay.
You mean how like AMDs APUs manage to do better?
Or how they have better battery life?
>IMO it's just marketing gimmick like "95" 9900K lol.
Lol
BigMamaInHouse - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Yes- this is the sad truth, and only we the customers are suffering from it and paying premium.HStewart - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Most customers are not gamers with desktops and trust Intel. That is why Intel sells.yankeeDDL - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
The biggest problem in my opinion is the lack of offering on AMD.I have been waiting for some offerings with the Ryzen 7 2800H (also, a 45W unit) and there isn't even a review yet, and the CPU was announced last November. It's almost time for the 3*** series and we don't have laptops with the 2800H yet.
FreckledTrout - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
I think them not going to hard in mobile / low power has been smart. Once they are on the 7nm node that is when they become super competitive with Intel and hopefully push hard into mobile / low power then as well.HStewart - Tuesday, April 23, 2019 - link
Ignoring 80% of the market is not smart at all and 7nm will not change that - by that time Sunny Cove will be out and AMD will be back to drawing books. There is also some rumors that next Xbox will be Intel based ( likely Sunny Cove maybe with Xe graphics )I think these 9 series are hold over to Sunny Cove later this year - mobile first because that is where the primary market it - like 2020 for desktop market - server could be earlier