NVIDIA Announces 3D Vision 2 Glasses And 3D LightBoost Technology
by Ryan Smith on October 14, 2011 9:30 PM ESTWe’re here on the USS Hornet attending NVIDIA’s GeForce LAN 6 event, where NVIDIA has just finished a kick-off keynote and product announcement between rounds of gaming. While NVIDIA has held LAN parties in the past, they don’t traditionally use them to announce new products. But the reality of the GPU product cycle is that with Kepler due in 2012 NVIDIA won’t be launching any major new consumer GPUs this fall, so instead the fall is being dedicated to their ecosystem products and GeForce LAN 6 is being used as the launch event for those products. So while today’s announcement isn’t a new GPU, it is still quite relevant to gaming.
As you may recall, it’s been nearly 3 years since NVIDIA first announced 3D Vision, their initiative to revitalize the shutter glasses 3D gaming market by adding support to their drivers for running a number of games in 3D, while at the same time taking care of the hardware on their own by producing the glasses and IR transmitter. Since then they have given the glasses a slight upgrade by extending the battery life, having a few monitor/laptop vendors integrate the IR transmitter into their wares, and introduced a separate set of wired glasses, but otherwise the platform has remained the same.
3D Vision 1 Glasses
As for the competition NVIDIA is facing some pressure from AMD, whose HD3D initiative had been slow to start off but has finally gained some momentum with the release of monitors such as the Samsung SA750. At the same time NVIDIAs own sales have reached 500,000 glasses, meaning the product line has been deemed successful enough to continue its development. As a result 3D Vision is due for a refresh.
The result of that product refresh is pair of technologies: 3D Vision 2 glasses, and 3D LightBoost. The 3D Vision 2 glasses are the long awaited replacement for NVIDIA’s earlier 3D Vision wireless glasses, and feature a new fit and larger lenses. From NVIDIA’s perspective they wanted to have glasses with larger lenses for use with today’s 27” 120Hz monitors (3D Vision 1 launched with 22” monitors), whereas from our perspective we’ve never been a big fan of the wrap-around fit of the original glasses.
The result is that NVIDIA went with lenses that are 20% larger than with the older glasses, which in turn required making the glasses larger overall. This ends up killing 2 birds with one stone, as not only does NVIDIA get their larger lenses, but the larger frame allows them to promote the glasses as allowing less light to leak in from the side. At the same time the larger frame means that they’ve gone back and reworked the materials and the fit of the frame; the frame is now made out of a softer plastic, which should be more malleable to heads and headphones alike. With that said we haven’t had a chance to try out a set of 3D Vision 2 glasses yet, so we’ll be including our impressions shortly once NVIDIA brings them out for exhibition.
The second 3D Vision announcement of the evening is the announcement of 3D LightBoost, a new NVIDIA technology that is designed to partially mitigate the biggest pitfall of active shutter glasses: the poor visibility that results from the shutters blocking so much light. All 3D systems suffer to this to some extent – at the end of the day you’re blocking an image from reaching any given eye – but as anyone who has used both polarized and shutter systems can tell you, shutter systems have it worse. Thus the idea behind 3D LightBoost is that NVIDIA has a new way to operate their glasses that blocks less light, both from the monitor and from the immediate environment.
Unfortunately NVIDIA is holding their cards close to their chest here when it comes to discussing how the technology operates. What we have managed to get confirmed is that 3D LightBoost is a monitor technology (not a glasses technology), and that NVIDIA is playing with the monitor backlight to achieve this. Specifically they’re shutting off the backlight entirely between frames, and then activating the backlight at over 100% brightness when they want to show a frame. In effect the backlight itself is acting as a shutter.
The significance of this change is that by modulating the backlight the shutters on the glasses themselves no longer need to be closed for as long a period of time. Currently NVIDIA needs to close the shutters relatively early to prevent stereo crosstalk – left and right images being seen in the wrong eyes – from being noticed and breaking the 3D illusion. The need to close the shutters so early is a particular quirk of LCD monitors, as the shutters need to be closed while the LCD crystals are moving to their new alignment and only opened once the crystals are near or at their new alignment, since crosstalk will occur long before the image settles. Or to put another way, by modulating the backlight LCD motion blur can be hidden, which is a second way to reduce stereo crosstalk.
The result of this is that the shutters on the glasses can be kept open longer, which improves the amount of environmental light that gets through the glasses. For the monitor itself, the increase in image brightness is achieved by overdriving the monitor’s backlight, producing an image brighter than the current crop of 3D monitors at full brightness. The amount of overdrive is going to depend on the attributes of the monitor being used, and more immediately NVIDIA still hasn’t fully explained the technical reason for why they can overdrive a backlight but only for short periods of time. In any case the combination of the two effects results in both the image on the monitor and the immediate environment being perceived as being brighter. Presumably this method could also be used to reduce overall stereo crosstalk (which still exists to some extent), but NVIDIA is not promoting it as such.
As you can imagine, 3D LightBoost will require new monitors capable of handling the backlight modulation. NVIDIA’s launch monitor will be the ASUS VG278H, a 27” LED backlit TN monitor with a resolution of 1920x1080. The VG278H will launch this month at $699, and will also include an integrated 3D Vision IR transmitter and a set of 3D Vision 2 glasses (although strictly speaking the integrated IR transmitter isn’t required for 3D LightBoost or 3D Vision 2). The Acer HN274HB and BenQ XL2420T are also 3D LightBoost qualified, and in the laptop market NVIDIA will be launching 3D LightBoost with Toshiba’s Qosmio X770/X775 and Satellite P770/775 laptops, which feature a 17.3” screen and come with a pair of 3D Vision 1 glasses.
Wrapping things up, NVIDIA is telling us that 3D Vision 2 glasses will be available this month at the same price as their existing 3D Vision 1 kits. This means the 3D Vision 2 glasses alone will retail for $99, while the glasses plus an IR hub will retail for $149. All of these new products – the glasses and 3D LightBoost monitors alike – are backwards compatible with existing 3D Vision 1 gear, so 3D Vision 2 glasses will work with existing monitors, and we expect 3D Vision 1 glasses to work with the forthcoming 3D LightBoost monitors.
Meanwhile as this is a gaming event, 3D Vision Pro – NVIDIA’s RF 3D Vision system – hasn’t been mentioned, but given the similarities between the two products we’d expect it’s just a matter of time. So 3D Vision Pro owners have something to look forward to for 2012.
We’ll have more on 3D Vision 2 and 3D LightBoost later tonight once we’ve had a chance to play with the exhibition units, so stay tuned.
Update: We've just returned from the exhibit hall where NVIDIA is showing off the 3DVision 2 glasses and the Asus monitor (in fact the entire LAN tournament area is equipped with them). While we can't take any objective measurements in these conditions, subjectively the 3D LightBoost effect does appear to be doing its job. The environmental lighting getting through the glasses is immediately noticeably brighter; there's still some light being blocked of course, but I'd say it's comparable to passively polarized glasses now. As for the monitor brightness that's also subjectively better, but it's not immediately apparent without a regular monitor to compare it against. At first glance I'd again call it comparable to polarized monitors, but it's something that needs a controlled test.
Interestingly you'd never know that the Asus monitors were using 3D LightBoost just by looking at them. There's no flicker with the monitors, with or without the glasses. Again a controlled test will reveal more, but at first glance we're rather surprised by just how imperceptible the modulation of the monitor's backlight is.
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DaFox - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
Awesome! Thanks Ryan.marraco - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
3D glasses need movement sensors, so the screen reacts and updates to head movement.I remember that when I played my first 3D game, I instinctively moved my head to “see” around corners, and got frustrated because, obviously, it didn’t worked.
I learned not to do that, but still I dream with doing it.
Akv - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
I'm still not sure I would want to bother to put on glasses to watch my movies.HDBanger - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
(although strictly speaking the integrated IR transmitter isn’t required for 3D LightBoost or 3D Vision 2)So why would they include an integrated one in the monitors then? If it isn't needed anymore, what is the point?
Ryan Smith - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
You still need A transmitter, it just doesn't have to be integrated into the monitor. Glasses + USB hub is equally valid for 3DV2.Aikouka - Monday, October 17, 2011 - link
Unless you're using a (USB) corded model of their 3D glasses, an IR transmitter is required in some fashion. Whether you have it integrated into your monitor or a separate device, it needs to be there to tell the glasses when to switch.chizow - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
Ryan, not sure if you still have access to the glasses, but were you able to see how uniform the lenses were for blocking light? A big part of stereo cross-talk on the old glasses was due to the fact the louvred shutters in the lenses did not uniformly block light; generally, they did a better job in the middle of the glasses, but worst toward the periphery. So in normal 3D viewing, you might see more cross-talk on the edges of the screen because the lenses themselves were not blocking out light meant for the other eye toward the edge of the lenses.Very informative article though, would love to hear a hands-on comparison of old glasses vs.new on an old 3D Vision LCD to see if there's any signaling/shuttering improvements beyond the stated size and material upgrades.
Also pretty surprised to hear Nvidia has sold 500K pairs of glasses. That's a pretty impressive number, we'll have to see if they continue building momentum now that there's increased competition from the various LCD mfgs. with their own proprietary glasses, especially now that a lot of them are going to much cheaper passive polarized solutions.
Ryan Smith - Monday, October 17, 2011 - link
By the time I caught this message I had already left, but I didn't notice any uniformity issues when using them. It's something where we need to test it under controlled conditions to be sure.Note that signaling hasn't changed. This is why 3DV1 and 3DV2 are completely compatible.
chizow - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
Hi Ryan thanks for the reply.I was actually referring to internal signaling differences that might help the shutters refresh more uniformly in the glasses themselves.
Also to test the lens uniformity, there's a few ways to accomplish this, but basically you attempt to bug the stereo mode out so that one eye is always shuttered black. A few ways to do this, you can use the Nvidia Stereo Viewer and try to play 3D content in an unsupported playback mode. This triggers the USB emitter/3D Vision but the lenses get confused and shutter incorrectly.
You can also hold the power button on the left arm of the glasses which triggers ~10s span where the shutters are closed. In 3D Stereoviewer, if I mess with the power button enough while 3D Vision is on, I can get the left lens to stay completely dark, which makes it very easy to see the inconsistency in how much the different areas of the lens block light.
Lastly Andrew Fear at Nvidia posted some updates on the 3D Vision forums making a point that wasn't very well conveyed here or in the other 3DV2 launch articles. LightBoost technology does indeed work with the older 3DV1 glasses so the technology is dependent on a LightBoost capable monitor only. The USB emitter and glasses can both be 3DV1 and still take advantage of LightBoost. I'm not sure if you stated otherwise, but I was pretty surprised by this revelation even after reading a few of these write-ups.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id...
Do you plan on getting a kit to review? Look forward to it if you do.
bbee - Sunday, October 16, 2011 - link
A lot of us already have a great 3D monitor and glasses - the TV set. I've been using my 55" off an ond with nvidia's 3DTV play and it works great, but nvidia's support is pretty bad. They seem to like to tie it down to specific TV sets and recievers leading to people hacking around with INF files. I assume this is because they prefer you'd buy it bumdled with "select notebooks" and with their "3D Vision PCs".Any idea how this announcement affects their 3DTV offering? Will there be a new version of this soon perhaps?