This is a special episode where Dustin and I debate the merits of Haswell on the desktop, from an enthusiast's perspective.

The AnandTech Podcast - Episode 22
featuring Anand Shimpi, Dustin Sklavos

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Total Time:  1 hour 28 minutes

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Haswell on the Desktop - The Entire Time
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  • Kougar - Thursday, August 1, 2013 - link

    I feel desktop users got shafted with Haswell primarily because of the disabling of so many features on "K" parts, in addition to the use of basic thermalpaste. Charging more for an "overclocking" model chip that was intentionally designed to not be "OC friendly" felt like a blatant ripoff.

    K chips lose VT-d, which impacts a great many enthusiasts as VMs are pretty commonplace these days. It also loses transactional memory support, although only time will tell how much that affects end users in general. But with 32GB and 64GB desktop systems moving into the upper mainstream it is disappointing.

    End-user Turbo-mode overclocking was disabled on Haswell, which is ironic because locking all four cores to 3.9Ghz is about all the chip is good for anyway, and would've been the route I'd gone instead of buying a price-premium K-part. I am fairly sure I would have seen better performance with a non-K part with VT-d, than I am presently getting from a 4.2Ghz 4770K with VT-d disabled under VMware loads.

    The SB-E market would have actually been my chip of choice, but I can't tolerate the thought of buying a $600 hexcore that's several years out-of-date on uArch and process node...
  • nicsta - Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - link

    For me, the highlight was Dustin's maniacal laugh in reply to Anand's question "So what do you think of the new Mac Pro?"

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