Eurocom Racer: Why the Radeon HD 6970M Rocksby Jarred Walton on March 17, 2011 3:00 AM EST
Eurocom Racer, aka the Clevo P150HM
I hate to do this to Eurocom, but I’m going to get this out of the way right at the start. Eurocom is quick to point out that they offer many specialized features that you can’t get elsewhere, making their Clevo-based offerings something more than you’ll get from other vendors. That’s true to an extent, but at the end of the day this is still a Clevo P150HM chassis, the smaller version of the Clevo P170HM we looked at a couple weeks back. They asked us not to compare with pricing from other vendors, but we know our readers are smart enough to put two and two together, so there you have it. With that messy subject dealt with, let’s discuss some of the extras that Eurocom likes to tout.
First, most of Eurocom’s laptops fall more into the category of mobile workstations rather than pure notebooks. If you saw dollar signs flash when I said “workstation”, you’re not alone. So what makes for a “mobile workstation” as opposed to a regular notebook? In this case, Eurocom gives users the option to equip their Racer notebook with Quadro graphics cards, which make even the GTX 485M seem affordable. How much of the extra testing and validation is done by Eurocom and how much comes from Clevo I can’t say, but there’s definitely more involved in qualifying a notebook for use with a Quadro 5000M than just stuffing a GPU into the chassis and hoping for the best.
Extra features don’t end there. Eurocom also lists support for 8GB SO-DIMMs, something few other vendors even think about; each 8GB DIMM will set you back over $850, though, so you’d better have a really good reason for going there. And just for the record, that price isn’t all that unreasonable—Dell lists 2x8GB as an option on the Precision M6500, and it’s a $4280 upgrade. Ouch! Eurocom also supports the use of a second HDD/SSD in place of the optical drive via a caddy, or just buy the caddy on your own for future use as a $125 upgrade. As a final incentive to go the Eurocom route, they offer the P150HM/Racer with one of three LCDs: 1080p matte, 1080p glossy, or 768p 120Hz glossy 3D. We received the cheapest option, which also happens to be the best: the matte 1080p panel. In a word, it’s beautiful!
The bottom line, as you’ll see below, is that Eurocom offers some extras that you can’t get from most Clevo resellers, but it will cost you a bit more. Here’s the setup we received for review.
|Eurocom Racer Specifications|
Intel Core i7-2720QM
(4x2.2GHz + HT, 32nm, 6MB L3, Turbo to 3.3GHz, 45W)
|Memory||4x2GB DDR3-1333 (Max 32GB)|
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2GB
960 Stream Processors, 680/900MHz Core/RAM clocks
256-bit GDDR5 Interface, 3.6GHz effective RAM clock
15.6" LED Matte 16:9 1080p (1920x1080)
(AU Optronics B156HW01)
500GB 7200RPM Hybrid HDD
(Seagate Momentus XT ST95005620AS)
|Optical Drive||DVD+/-RW (HL-DT-ST GT32N)|
Gigabit Ethernet (JMicron JMC250)
802.11b/g/n WiFi (Intel Advanced-N 6230)
Bluetooth 3.0 (Intel Advanced-N 6230)
Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (2.1 speakers + sub-woofer)
Four audio jacks (Microphone, Headphone, Line-In, Line-Out)
Capable of 5.1 and digital output
|Battery||8-Cell, 14.8V, 5.2Ah, 77Wh|
|Front Side||IR Receiver|
Memory Card Reader
1 x USB 2.0
2 x USB 3.0
Optional TV Input
1 x USB 2.0
2 x Exhaust vent
1 x eSATA/USB 2.0 Combo
|Operating System||Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit|
|Dimensions||15.04" x 10.24" x 1.4-1.72" (WxDxH)|
|Weight||6.98 lbs (with 8-cell battery)|
Optional HDD/SSD Tray for Optical Drive Bay
Flash reader (SD, MMC, MS)
98-Key keyboard with 10-key
1-year warranty standard
2-year and 3-year extended warranties available
Estimated Starting Price: $1135 (i5-2520M, HD 5870, 2x2GB, 250GB)
Estimated Price as Configured: $2161
If you go play around with Eurocom’s online configurator, you’ll find a wealth of upgrades and other options. Some of the customizations are appreciated, but others make you feel like they’re milking you for every dime they can get. Let’s start with the bad areas first.
By default, you don’t even get wireless; to add insult to injury your choices are $57 for generic AzureWave 802.11n, $101 for Intel WiFi Link 6300, or $127 for Intel 6230 with 802.11n and Bluetooth 3.0. All of those prices seem to be about twice what we’d expect to pay online. Memory upgrades are another area where you’re fleeced; 2x2GB comes standard, but if you want 4x2GB it’s a $298 upgrade. Really? You mean adding another set of 2x2GB DDR3-1333 modules will cost 3.5 to 7 times what I’d pay online? Validation does not cost that much, and upgrading RAM is such a trivial task that even a trained monkey should be able to do it (no offense to the monkey). Hard drive and SSD pricing is also more than you’d pay if you want to do it yourself.
Other areas aren’t so bad—take the CPU and GPU upgrades for example. The i7-2720QM is probably the sweet spot, but you can move up to the 2820QM for $175, or drop to a dual-core 2540M and save $132. Going from a GeForce GTX 460M to a 485M results in a $482 price increase, which is also less than several other vendors charge for the same upgrade. Even more interesting than the GTX 485M however is the HD 6970M, which costs all of $66 more than the 460M. When you’re looking at well over $1500 for a typical configuration, an extra $66 is chump change—especially when you see just what the 6970M brings to the table. And if you don’t want/need Windows 7 on your new notebook, you can also save some money by getting the Racer without an OS, which is certainly useful if you plan on making a Linux mobile workstation.
Something worth noting is that pricing may still be in flux, since the Racer is not yet available for order. While our system as configured lists a final price of $2161, if you drop to a standard 500GB HDD and 4GB RAM you can get it for as little as $1828. Such a laptop easily wipes the floor with other gaming notebooks sporting NVIDIA’s GTX 460M. Sorry ASUS and MSI, but the G73SW and GT680R are looking very long in the tooth right now. In the meantime, check Eurocom's product page and wait for the Racer to show up.
In short, yes, there’s a price premium on Eurocom laptops. Whether their support, features, and validation are worth the extra cost is something you’ll have to decide. If you want Sandy Bridge with a Quadro FX 5000M, especially in a 15.6" notebook, perhaps you can make a case for them. More importantly, looking at competitive pricing from other vendors, it looks like the Racer will run about $200 more than a P150HM with standard components (2x2GB RAM, 500GB HDD, Win7 Home Premium, WiFi 6230, DVDRW), but with some interesting extras like a matte LCD (actually less than a glossy 1080p LCD if you can believe it) and the HD 6970M. So far, we haven’t found any other vendors offering the P150HM with the HD 6970M, so as of today Eurocom is your only choice for such a notebook. Would I be willing to shell out an extra $200 to upgrade from the GTX 460M to the HD 6970M and get a good matte panel thrown into the deal? You bet I would! Eurocom also has a 10% student discount, in case you qualify, which would bring the price down to within spitting distance of other resellers. Just watch out for some of the upgrade prices.
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freezervv - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkRe: "by Jarred Walton on 3/17/2011 3:00:00 AM"
Or at least those of us ESTers just getting around to a catnap amidst exam studying. ;)
JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkHey, I'm PDT, so it's only just past midnight. And here I thought I'd be finished with this about six hours ago....
poohbear - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkhello, can you guys please list the price or price segment of the product u're reviewing from the get go? Do i really hafta scroll all the way to the back to get an idea of what the price range is, or if its a waste of time reading the article cause its out of said price range? U're constantly saying it costs more or this costs less, but there's no clear cut price easy for us readers to see. A comparison of similar products would be great too, in a clean easy to understand graph please and thank u!
JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkPage one, bottom of the spec table, in bold. Was that not clear enough?
chrnochime - Friday, March 18, 2011 - linkBottom of the spec like Jarred said. Need that to be 3 or 4 larger font size?
jcompagner - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkAnd then for SandyBridge?
If only 1 17" is made with a 1920x1200p resolution on this planet that is not from apple, i would buy it immediately..
piroroadkill - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkWell, the Dell Precision M6500 has a 1920x1200 screen, 17".. and was reviewed on Anandtech.
But it's not Sandy Bridge yet. I'd imagine a good supply of new Sandy Bridge chipsets aren't common, but I'd have no doubt at all Dell will do a refresh on their Precision line with Sandy Bridge at some point in the near future. It also looks about a million times better than the Clevo stuff, which looks like a ghetto kit machine.
bobsmith1492 - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkI bought a Sager back in 2005 with a 1920x1200 matte screen. It's still up and running, though relatively slow these days and a few things are broken now.
blah238 - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkIn my 3DMark Vantage settings, the "Performance" preset equates to 1280x1024, whereas "High" is 1680x1050. Did you have to use custom settings to get 1680x1050 or is there just a mixup of names?
JarredWalton - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - linkSorry, my mistake. I got the High default resolution of 1680x1050 confused with Performance. 1280x1024 panels are such a rarity these days that I was sure Vantage had switched to WS for everything. 3DMark11, interestingly enough, did shift to new resolutions. 1024x600 for Entry and 1600x900 for Performance I believe, with 1080p used at the High setting. About time...
Now, if Futuremark would quit being idiots about changing my power settings every time I load one of their apps. Seriously: tweak all your power settings (i.e. don't put the LCD to sleep or hibernate the laptop after inactivity), then load any Futuremark app. When you're done, the power settings are now "display off after 5 minutes, ask for a password on resume, and hibernate/shut down with a low battery even when plugged in." Is it too much to think they should save my current settings and then restore them when the benchmark is done?