The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Review
by Ryan Smith on November 7, 2013 9:01 AM ESTCompany of Heroes 2
Our second benchmark in our benchmark suite is Relic Games’ Company of Heroes 2, the developer’s World War II Eastern Front themed RTS. For Company of Heroes 2 Relic was kind enough to put together a very strenuous built-in benchmark that was captured from one of the most demanding, snow-bound maps in the game, giving us a great look at CoH2’s performance at its worst. Consequently if a card can do well here then it should have no trouble throughout the rest of the game.
Since Company of Heroes 2 is not an AFR friendly game, getting the best performance out of the game requires having the fastest GPU. While the GTX 780 Ti has a clear lead over the 290X across the average of our games, in this specific case it’s going to come up short, as AMD’s performance with this game is simply too high to be overcome without a significant performance advantage. Conversely this means that GTX 780 Ti and 290X are still close enough that NVIDIA won’t be able to sweep every game; in games where AMD still does exceptionally well, they’ll be able to close the gap and surpass the GTX 780 Ti.
Meanwhile, looking at a straight-up NVIDIA comparison, the GTX 780 Ti holds a slightly smaller than normal lead over its counterparts. At 5% faster than GTX Titan and 17% faster than GTX 780 it’s still the fastest of the cards, but it won’t pull ahead in this game by as much as it does elsewhere.
The minimum framerate story is largely the same. GTX 780 Ti is the fastest NVIDIA card, but it will trail the 290X by over 10% in both scenarios.
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fewafwwaefwa - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link
sterven.looncraz - Thursday, November 7, 2013 - link
When game producers author the games they will do it with a mind towards Mantle and exploiting the AMD GPU characteristics exposed by Mantle on PCs for their console games.When creating portable software you create as thin of an abstraction layer as possible, that layer will now be much closer to the metal with unoptimized DirectX alternatives being manually added. That could very well mean that AMD hardware will have a noticeable advantage on PCs and game producers will only need to do a little extra work to become compatible with other DX-10/11 compatible video cards on Windows/Linux - so nVidia will become something of a "don't forget about me!" rather than "let's build to a generic platform and pull in the nVidia GPU extensions..."
Basstrip - Friday, November 8, 2013 - link
I think they've ALWAYS programmed directly to the core. I think it's safe to assume that the processes translate fairly well and that although they might not be the same, they are similar.It just seems so economic to streamline the whole process. Less of a headache than to constantly try optimize things for multiple platforms.
AMD chips on consoles may not be able to support mantle on the hardware side but programming for consoles and for pc will definitely NOT be 2 completely different things.
elajt_1 - Friday, November 8, 2013 - link
Something I read on Extremetech: Feedback we’ve gotten from other sources continues to suggest that Microsoft’s low-level API for the Xbox One is extremely similar to Mantle, and the difference between the two is basically semantic. This doesn’t square very well with Microsoft’s own statements; we’ll continue to investigate.http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/168671-xbox-one-...
klmccaughey - Monday, November 11, 2013 - link
The difference is a couple of header files. Izzy Wizzy! And you have your API calling code in Xbox transferable to a PC, the header files compile the API's to Mantle API - but both API's are essentailly the same. It couldn't be easier.polaco - Friday, November 8, 2013 - link
The point of mantle I think is to provide an easy way to port from PC to console or Console to PC. So giving the possibility to allow an easier cross compilation.L33T BEANS - Friday, November 8, 2013 - link
Basing someones intelligence on a single statement is unwise.Totally - Sunday, November 10, 2013 - link
Reading these comments makes me wonder, if these people slinging mantle around like a buzzword actually know what it does, because going by the comments alone trying to pitting it against g-sync they clearly don't. Mantle is as relevant to gamers as Cuda is. Yes it does have a direct impact but the benefits aren't for the end user.klmccaughey - Monday, November 11, 2013 - link
You do not understand. The API on the consoles is basically "Mantle". Mantle copies verbatim the API calls for the consoles. They just call it the API on the console. Port the code across, change a few headers, and you have your Mantle calls ;)MonkeyM - Sunday, November 10, 2013 - link
They will sell DIY kits, you don't need a new monitor, as per the press conference.