Both ECS RS480-M and MSI Xpress 200 RS480M2-IL are Socket 939, only MSI Xpress 200 RS480M-IL is socket 754.
While I would support having a special page with integrated graphics Athlon64 mainboards (both S754 and S939), having mainboards based on Socket 939 thrown together with mainboards based on Socket 754 seems counterproductive.
I would buy such a mainboard provided it would have some kind of over/underclocking and under/overvoltage. But I think S754 would loose too much of its possible bandwidth to the integrated video, so I would prefer a Socket 939 board
how many people are hanging out for s939 semprons?
itching to get one so I can bundle it together with my AGP board -- get rid of it and upgrade to PCI-E :)
I was on a budget for my college SFF rig so I went the s754 Sempron route - I got a x86-64 enable Sempron so it turned out good. The Semprons tend to clock up to 2.4-2.6GHz pretty easily too, so 'tis a good deal. :)
Also, DOn't you need ddr667 memory for Intel? At least thats what all the boards say is the standars... I mean I wouldn't put ddr333 memory in AMD systems, so ddr667 memory is optimal for Intel Dual core isn't it?
PC4200 is DDR2-533, which is quite a bit different from DDR-333. DDR-5300/5400 is DDR2-667, and not all motherboards support that properly. Even if they do, the performance benefit is negligible. DDR2-533 is perfectly sufficient unless you're going after ORB scores.
I read the Ultra roundup and this board was not praised much at all.
It was less than impressive if I remember right. Does anyone understand why the board is the pick here for 5 weeks in a row but in the roundup was not given good marks?
Seems like the Epox that won the roundup would be the choice.
maybe because these guides don't take overclockig into account.. They expect you to run at stock, and the Chaintech mobo is a good one to run at stock.
I don’t see how this helped you at all. This guide lists maybe 6 socket 754 motherboards when Newegg alone lists 74 socket 754 moterboards on their web site.
I guess how I see it as helping me is using their pricing engine.
It has helped me more so with my personl computer as I am using s754 and was thinking about doing a upgrade from a 3400+ Newcastle to hopefully(If my wife will let me) upgrade to the 3800+ X2 Dual Core cpu.
if the price engine helps you then great, but if thats all you need then there is always pricewatch and dealtime.
I also got to thinking all the socket 754 boards listed in this guide are nForce 4 or ATi based, so really this guide helped you even less because all those are PCI-E not AGP (you did say a Radeon 9600 was going to be used, so you need AGP).
I wanted to mention, the mobo is not specifically for me, but it is for a customer. And she wants the cheapest 64 Bit possible, so I have to go with a s754 - 64 Bit Sempron cpu. She wants to play City of Hero's and this Sempron should do the job nicely, especially since her video card is only a 9600 Pro.
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Calin - Monday, August 8, 2005 - link
Both ECS RS480-M and MSI Xpress 200 RS480M2-IL are Socket 939, only MSI Xpress 200 RS480M-IL is socket 754.While I would support having a special page with integrated graphics Athlon64 mainboards (both S754 and S939), having mainboards based on Socket 939 thrown together with mainboards based on Socket 754 seems counterproductive.
I would buy such a mainboard provided it would have some kind of over/underclocking and under/overvoltage. But I think S754 would loose too much of its possible bandwidth to the integrated video, so I would prefer a Socket 939 board
Calin
xsilver - Sunday, August 7, 2005 - link
how many people are hanging out for s939 semprons?itching to get one so I can bundle it together with my AGP board -- get rid of it and upgrade to PCI-E :)
Calin - Monday, August 8, 2005 - link
I wouldn't mind one, to use with a Socket 939 Radeon XPress boardariafrost - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I was on a budget for my college SFF rig so I went the s754 Sempron route - I got a x86-64 enable Sempron so it turned out good. The Semprons tend to clock up to 2.4-2.6GHz pretty easily too, so 'tis a good deal. :)Hacp - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
Also, DOn't you need ddr667 memory for Intel? At least thats what all the boards say is the standars... I mean I wouldn't put ddr333 memory in AMD systems, so ddr667 memory is optimal for Intel Dual core isn't it?Cheapest DDR667=100 bucks btw..
JarredWalton - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
PC4200 is DDR2-533, which is quite a bit different from DDR-333. DDR-5300/5400 is DDR2-667, and not all motherboards support that properly. Even if they do, the performance benefit is negligible. DDR2-533 is perfectly sufficient unless you're going after ORB scores.Holysmoke36 - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I read the Ultra roundup and this board was not praised much at all.It was less than impressive if I remember right. Does anyone understand why the board is the pick here for 5 weeks in a row but in the roundup was not given good marks?
Seems like the Epox that won the roundup would be the choice.
Hacp - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
maybe because these guides don't take overclockig into account.. They expect you to run at stock, and the Chaintech mobo is a good one to run at stock.Holysmoke36 - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
sorry 5 Months in a rowformulav8 - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I have to buy a s754 mobo and this will help alot :)justly - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I don’t see how this helped you at all. This guide lists maybe 6 socket 754 motherboards when Newegg alone lists 74 socket 754 moterboards on their web site.formulav8 - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I guess how I see it as helping me is using their pricing engine.It has helped me more so with my personl computer as I am using s754 and was thinking about doing a upgrade from a 3400+ Newcastle to hopefully(If my wife will let me) upgrade to the 3800+ X2 Dual Core cpu.
Jason
justly - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
if the price engine helps you then great, but if thats all you need then there is always pricewatch and dealtime.I also got to thinking all the socket 754 boards listed in this guide are nForce 4 or ATi based, so really this guide helped you even less because all those are PCI-E not AGP (you did say a Radeon 9600 was going to be used, so you need AGP).
formulav8 - Saturday, August 6, 2005 - link
I wanted to mention, the mobo is not specifically for me, but it is for a customer. And she wants the cheapest 64 Bit possible, so I have to go with a s754 - 64 Bit Sempron cpu. She wants to play City of Hero's and this Sempron should do the job nicely, especially since her video card is only a 9600 Pro.Jason
bldckstark - Monday, August 8, 2005 - link
I needed this review too. I just bought an MSI NEO4 SLI and reading as the pick of the month makes me feel GOOD ;^)