Because there're enough people around to buy it anyway despite the price? But don't talk to me, I still don't understand why people pay $$$ for gadgets that suck most at what is supposed to be their number one purpose: TELEPHONY
Well, think about it, if Verizon already has Apple in their pockets already doesn't make sense that they charge for their phones like Apple does too? I guess they felt that they would be left out, huh? More than likely it's to cover their asses by subsidizing the phone so that if you were to return it, they wouldn't lose too much money off of it, that's my take of it. LTE isn't too much of an issue, since we already pay a ridiculous amount of money on our bills to cover it the costs of maintaining/upgrading cell towers on it anyways.
* No mention if if has NFC...probably means is doesn't. Sure NFC is not ubiquitous but within a year it will be and I'll still be stuck in contract. So NFC is a must now.
* How thin is it really? 7.1mm is ignoring the hump. I want to know how think it is there. Design is perfect except for the hump. How thin does it really need to be? If it was 10mm think would that be so bad to get rid of the hump? And use the extra space for an even bigger battery.
NFC is a no, not surprising given that thin and NFC doesn't go together just yet. 7.1 is ignoring the lump but the lump becomes almost negligible when you consider just how much of this device is 7.1 mm. And the lump isn't too thick. nuMoto (as I've taken to calling it) is still there, and still falls nicely in the balance of being not too invasive while still being noticeable. the device was smooth, very smooth. No word on when unlocked bootloaders will actually surface.
I can't find anyplace that mentions the dimensions of the lump at all--everyone just calls the RAZR 7.1mm thick and then shows a photo of a thin phone with a thick lump. Measuring the photo above, the thin part is 21 pixels and the thick part is 33, making the lump approximately 11.1mm thick. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick, which makes it (according to the UK courts) a thinner phone.
From your post about a week ago explaining why the new iPhone doesn't have LTE you said phones can't get LTE without sacrificing either thickness or battery size, at least not until Q2/Q32012.
How does this one get a 1800mAh battery and 7.1mm thickness? Is it because of the bump?
It's hard to say without having the device in hand, well torn down more aptly. The laminated construction may be a contributor, as could the bump. What we know is that this won't feature the Qualcomm integration that we discussed in that prior article, nor the process shrink.
It could be that we're seeing the results of a move away from simply bumping specifications at the cost of form, to manufacturers willing to pursue new manufacturing materials and techniques in order to achieve a design prerogative, in this case thin.
So still nothing really that challenges the SGS2? I mean, the iPhone 4S seems pretty frickin' awesome in terms of performance, but I would rather stick to Android tbh.
Unless someone can come out with something more impressive than the SGS2 by March, looks like I know where my money is going.
This and the Nexus Prime sure do sounds nice, particularly the Prime's screen and ICS, but I am sure a manual ICS update will be available not too long afterwards, so the point is kind of moot to me.
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michael2k - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
Why do they think they can charge more than Apple, already the king of overpriced items?sciwizam - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
Because this has 32GB of storage and LTE?jalexoid - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
And we all saw hot it worked with the XOOM. On the other hand, SGS2 sells rather well....Daniel Egger - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
Because there're enough people around to buy it anyway despite the price? But don't talk to me, I still don't understand why people pay $$$ for gadgets that suck most at what is supposed to be their number one purpose: TELEPHONYmichael2k - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
If we used these things for phones we wouldn't be buying smartphones, we'd be using Nokia phones.Ergo their #1 purpose isn't telephony, it's actually games, apps, web browsing, email, etc.
blueboy11 - Friday, October 21, 2011 - link
Well, think about it, if Verizon already has Apple in their pockets already doesn't make sense that they charge for their phones like Apple does too? I guess they felt that they would be left out, huh? More than likely it's to cover their asses by subsidizing the phone so that if you were to return it, they wouldn't lose too much money off of it, that's my take of it. LTE isn't too much of an issue, since we already pay a ridiculous amount of money on our bills to cover it the costs of maintaining/upgrading cell towers on it anyways.Johnnn3433 - Saturday, November 5, 2011 - link
Yeah its most likely the 4GLTE that sets it apart.www.fourgltephones.com
galfert - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
* No mention if if has NFC...probably means is doesn't. Sure NFC is not ubiquitous but within a year it will be and I'll still be stuck in contract. So NFC is a must now.* How thin is it really? 7.1mm is ignoring the hump. I want to know how think it is there. Design is perfect except for the hump. How thin does it really need to be? If it was 10mm think would that be so bad to get rid of the hump? And use the extra space for an even bigger battery.
* Motoblur still in there? ....Pass
* Will the boot loader be unlocked?
JasonInofuentes - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
NFC is a no, not surprising given that thin and NFC doesn't go together just yet.7.1 is ignoring the lump but the lump becomes almost negligible when you consider just how much of this device is 7.1 mm. And the lump isn't too thick.
nuMoto (as I've taken to calling it) is still there, and still falls nicely in the balance of being not too invasive while still being noticeable. the device was smooth, very smooth.
No word on when unlocked bootloaders will actually surface.
Jason
BorderlineADD - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link
I can't find anyplace that mentions the dimensions of the lump at all--everyone just calls the RAZR 7.1mm thick and then shows a photo of a thin phone with a thick lump. Measuring the photo above, the thin part is 21 pixels and the thick part is 33, making the lump approximately 11.1mm thick. The iPhone 4 is 9.3mm thick, which makes it (according to the UK courts) a thinner phone.Johnnn3433 - Friday, October 28, 2011 - link
Is 4G LTE That Much Faster Than 3G Or Even 4G?http://4gltephones.blogspot.com/
Icyicy9999 - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
From your post about a week ago explaining why the new iPhone doesn't have LTE you said phones can't get LTE without sacrificing either thickness or battery size, at least not until Q2/Q32012.How does this one get a 1800mAh battery and 7.1mm thickness? Is it because of the bump?
tekzor - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
I'm curious at the heat generation of this thing.Super thin with LTE and dual core (TOASTY). Hopefully anandtech will do an analysis of it.
JasonInofuentes - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link
It's hard to say without having the device in hand, well torn down more aptly. The laminated construction may be a contributor, as could the bump. What we know is that this won't feature the Qualcomm integration that we discussed in that prior article, nor the process shrink.It could be that we're seeing the results of a move away from simply bumping specifications at the cost of form, to manufacturers willing to pursue new manufacturing materials and techniques in order to achieve a design prerogative, in this case thin.
Skiddywinks - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link
So still nothing really that challenges the SGS2? I mean, the iPhone 4S seems pretty frickin' awesome in terms of performance, but I would rather stick to Android tbh.Unless someone can come out with something more impressive than the SGS2 by March, looks like I know where my money is going.
This and the Nexus Prime sure do sounds nice, particularly the Prime's screen and ICS, but I am sure a manual ICS update will be available not too long afterwards, so the point is kind of moot to me.
Meh.